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+

 

+

Text Box: AVRIL 2026
+

+
+

Table of Contents

+

The problem: 2

+

The fix: 4

+

Conclusion: 6

+

Other potential fixes: 7

+

References: 7

+

 

+
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+ +

After a power outage at the hosting +location (3ti), the server wouldnt boot.

+ +

 

+ +

Connected remotely to a computer located at the +hosting provider, connected to IPMI/iDRAC then used virtual console to see what +was being displayed on the server.

+ +

 

+ +

The +problem:

+ +

 

+ +

Error was:

+ +

 

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+ +

Time out for waiting the udev queue +being empty.

+ +

Time out for waiting the udev queue +being empty.

+ +

Gave up waiting for root file system +device. Common problems:

+ +

-          +Boot +args (cat /proc/cmdline)

+ +

-          +Check +rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)

+ +

-          +Missing +modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)

+ +

ALERT! /dev/mapper/pve-root does not +exist. Dropping to a shell!

+ +

 

+ +

BusyBox v1.35.0 (Debian +1:1.13.0-4+b7) built-in shell (ash)

+ +

Enter help for a list of built-in +commands.

+ +

 

+ +

(initramfs)_

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

This built-in shell lacks required +tools to perform basic diagnostics let alone any rescue operations, but ls /dev +wouldnt list the hard drives.

+ +

 

+ +

Checked in the DRAC/Perc/BIOS and +the drives, RAID and virtual disks are all healthy so there is probably no +hardware failure.

+ +

+ +

A reboot shows that GRUB does load +so the drives ARE working.

+ +

 

+ +

A search for /dev/mapper/pve-root +does not exist proxmox shows this is a common issue and there are a few ways +people have fixed them.

+ +

1.       Use a different kernel. When +updating the kernel Proxmox keeps older kernel versions and they can be +accessed by selecting the Advanced options for Proxmox Virtual Environment +GNU/Linux boot option in GRUB.

+ +

a.       https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1cetljo/i_need_help_devmapperpveroot_does_not_exist/

+ +

2.       Use Chroot to perform a rescue +operation on the Linux installation. Including installing a new kernel if the +Proxmox doesnt have other installed kernels.

+ +

a.       https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/alert-dev-mapper-pve-root-does-not-exist.148029/

+ +

3.       Add rootdelay=10 +to GRUB

+ +

a.       https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/solved-i-need-help-dev-mapper-pve-root-does-not-exist.116967/

+ +

4.       +Adding +GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="intel_iommu=on iommu=pt" or quiet +intel_iommu=off intremap=off to GRUB

+ +

 

+ +

I tried option 3 by adding it directly in the GRUB +selection menu to no avail, it didnt change anything. I assumed option 4 didnt have +anything to do with my issue and wasnt even worth a try.

+ +

 

+ +

Option +1 did not help +either. I couldnt see an older kernel in the advanced option. Either the +system didnt update or it didnt keep the previous kernel version for me to +boot on.

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

I then went on to try and boot from +an Ubuntu desktop live USB drive. But even from there I couldnt see the hard +drive listed in /dev, or in lsblk or lshw, etc. At least I now had access to +better tools that initramfs was giving me that I could use to perform a better +diagnosis.

+ +

 

+ +

1.       +dmesg -T | +tail -n 200 (look for PCIe, SAS, SATA, NVMe, link +resets)

+ +

2.       +lsblk -e7 -o +NAME,TYPE,SIZE,MODEL,SERIAL,TRAN,HCTL (see what the kernel created)

+ +

3.       lspci -nn | egrep -i 'sas|raid|sata|nvme|scsi' +(confirm the controller exists)

+ +

 

+ +

As I was getting desperate, I was +basically trying anything I could find only, I eventually saw megaraid_sas +0000:01:00.0 in journalctl -k -b|egrep -i +mpt3sas|megaraid|ahci|nvme|reset|timout|aer.

+ +

 

+ +

The RAID card I use is a Dell PERC +h310 so where is that megaraid device coming from? It also has log entries +saying reset/timeout, bingo, I thought, this is the issue, it. times out??

+ +

 

+ +

Now lspci does find something if I +filter for megaraid (or lspci -k -s 01:00.0) +instead of trying to find Dell or PERC.

+ +

 

+ +

There were also some messages in dmesg +-T | egrep -I ahci|ata|SATA: SATA (1 to 5) +link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300). I assumed this was related to the timeout +with the megaraid card as it is a SAS/SATA compatible RAID device and my drives +are all SATA.

+ +

 

+ +

I tried changing the drives to RAID +in the server BIOS configuration even though it didnt make sense, and anyway +no changes were made prior to the server stopping working. The fact that I +could get to GRUB meant the system sees the disks, at least prior to GRUB or +the OS being loaded. Not seeing the disks even in the Ubuntu live I took it +that it meant that it was probably a type of driver issue, not a hardware +problem. I began looking for a different PERC card that might be using a +different driver like an H710 hoping that the new card would be seen properly +by the OS and that the RAID configuration would transfer over to the new card.

+ + + +

The +fix:

+ +

From chroot I added the Proxmox to +the deb list and installed kernel 6.14

+ +

 

+ +

To chroot:

+ +

Need an OS that can see the disks +then mount the folders to the temporary OS

+ +

 

+ +

         +mount --rbind +/proc /mnt/proc

+ +

         +mount --rbind +/sys /mnt/sys

+ +

         +mount --rbind +/dev /mnt/dev

+ +

         +mount --rbind +/run /mnt/run

+ +

 

+ +

Then chroot to the mounted broken +install: chroot /mnt then mount -a to mount other +partitions that might be needed.

+ +

 

+ +

Once in chroot, I checked which kernel I could try, the official documentation says 6.14 is available as an option.

+ +

Using this procedure I installed the 6.14 kernel +by adding an entry to the repository list.

+ +


+sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pve-install-repo.list

+ +

deb [arch=amd64] +http://download.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pve-no-subscription

+ +

sudo apt update

+ +

sudo apt install proxmox-kernel-6.14

+ +

 

+ +

The server boots fine after installing +the 6.14 kernel. The comments said you could force a default kernel for Proxmox +to boot to with the Proxmox-boot-tool +kernel pin command.

+ +

 

+ +

Running proxmox-boot-tool kernel list gives the following +results:

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+ +

Manually selected kernels:

+ +

None.

+ +

 

+ +

Automatically selected kernels:

+ +

6.14.11-8-bpo12-pve

+ +

6.8.12-23-pve

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+ +

 

+ +

Running proxmox-boot-tool kernel pin 6.14.11-8-bpo12-pve +outputs:

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+ +

E: no kernel image found in /boot +for '6.14.11-8-bpo12-pve', not setting default.

+ +

 

+ +

Possible Proxmox kernel versions +are:

+ +

6.14.11-8-bpo12-pve

+ +

6.8.12-23-pve

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+ +

 

+ +

Assuming the Automatically selected +kernels from kernel list means the new kernels are already pinned.

+ +

uname -r gives 6.8.12-23-pve which is good enough for +me for now. I would like to make sure the kernel updates arent done without +approval though, so I still need to figure out how to do that.

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

In the meantime, I ran these +commands which hopefully works well to stop the kernel from updating.

+
+
+	apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.14.11-8-bpo12-pve-signed
+	apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.14
+	apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-23-pve-signed
+	apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-9-pve-signed
+	apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.8
+
+
+
+ + +

 

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+ +

root@proxmox3:~# +apt list --installed |grep kernel

+ +

 

+ +

WARNING: apt does not have a stable +CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

+ +

 

+ +

proxmox-default-kernel/stable,now 1.1.0 all [installed]

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.14.11-8-bpo12-pve-signed/stable,now 6.14.11-8~bpo12+1 amd64 +[installed,automatic]

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.14/stable,now 6.14.11-8~bpo12+1 all [installed,upgradable to: +6.14.11-9~bpo12+1]

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-23-pve-signed/stable,now 6.8.12-23 amd64 [installed,automatic]

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-9-pve-signed/stable,now 6.8.12-9 amd64 +[installed]

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.8/stable,now 6.8.12-23 all [installed,upgradable to: +6.8.12-25]

+ +

proxmox-kernel-helper/stable,now 8.1.4 all [installed]

+ +

 

+ +

root@proxmox3:~# +apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.14.11-8-bpo12-pve-signed

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.14.11-8-bpo12-pve-signed +set on hold.

+ +

root@proxmox3:~# +apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.14

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.14 set on hold.

+ +

root@proxmox3:~# +apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-23-pve-signed

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-23-pve-signed +set on hold.

+ +

root@proxmox3:~# +apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-9-pve-signed

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-9-pve-signed +set on hold.

+ +

root@proxmox3:~# +apt-mark hold proxmox-kernel-6.8

+ +

proxmox-kernel-6.8 set on hold.

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

The bug seems to have been +identified in this Proxmox forum thread: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/pve-8-2-kernel-6-8-4-2-does-not-boot-cannot-find-root-device.145764/

+ +

By pschneider1968 (Peter Schneider) +who submitted it to Proxmox Bugzilla (and to the Linux mailing list?) with the +author of the offending patch (member of the kernel SCSI team) in CC. They then +spent time troubleshooting the issue on Peters machine

+ +

 

+ +

The offending code is at the bottom +of this commit I believe: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?id=6d20acbf3e3a32d331947dbc3802cf2d1a399e7d

+ +

 

+ +

--------------------------------------------

+
+
+ drivers/scsi/scsi.c | 7 +++++++
+ 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
+
+diff --git a/drivers/scsi/scsi.c b/drivers/scsi/scsi.c
+index 3e0c0381277a..f0464db3f9de 100644
+--- a/drivers/scsi/scsi.c
++++ b/drivers/scsi/scsi.c
+@@ -350,6 +350,13 @@ static int scsi_get_vpd_size(struct scsi_device *sdev, u8 page)
+ 		if (result < SCSI_VPD_HEADER_SIZE)
+ 			return 0;
+ 
++		if (result > sizeof(vpd)) {
++			dev_warn_once(&sdev->sdev_gendev,
++				      "%s: long VPD page 0 length: %d bytes\n",
++				      __func__, result);
++			result = sizeof(vpd);
++		}
++
+ 		result -= SCSI_VPD_HEADER_SIZE;
+ 		if (!memchr(&vpd[SCSI_VPD_HEADER_SIZE], page, result))
+ 			return 0;
+-- 
+2.44.0
+
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+ +

Conclusion:

+ +

I believe that an update to the +kernel probably caused the issue. Reading online seems to indicate that this is +somewhat common with older cards like mine. I did not have good backups in +place yet, they were automatically done but on the same RAID as the read of the +data, which is of course bad practice, but I was planning on sending these to +my other server automatically eventually.

+ +

For now, I have an external USB +drive connected where the VM backups are stored.

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Other +potential fixes:

+ +

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/timed-out-for-waiting-for-udev-queue-being-empty.129481/

+ +

-          +Chroot +then modify the thin_check_options in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf +near line 1120

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

 

+ +

References:

+ +

Proxmox boot tool how tos: https://dannyda.com/2023/11/07/proxmox-ve-pve-boot-tool-kernel-tools-how-to-change-kernel-manually-pin-kernel/

+ +

 

+ +

Other threads with similar issues:

+ +

1)      https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/q-weird-problem-after-upgrade-prox7-8-boot-newer-kernel-alert-dev-mapper-pve-root-does-not-exist-not-bootable.164002/

+ +

 

+ +

General Linux help:

+ +

1)      https://cr0x.net/en/proxmox-disks-not-detected-checklist/

+ +

2)      https://oneuptime.com/blog/post/2026-03-02-how-to-check-hardware-information-with-lshw-dmidecode-and-lspci-on-ubuntu/view

+ +

3)      How to chroot https://support.scc.suse.com/s/kb/How-to-Chroot-in-Rescue-Mode?language=en_US

+ +

4)      How to chroot: https://www.turnkeylinux.org/docs/chroot-to-repair-system

+ +

5)      Manually pin kernel https://dannyda.com/2023/11/07/proxmox-ve-pve-boot-tool-kernel-tools-how-to-change-kernel-manually-pin-kernel/

+ +

6)       

+ +
+ + + + diff --git a/ServerIssueManual.html b/ServerIssueManual.html new file mode 100644 index 0000000..1b563f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/ServerIssueManual.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ + + + +Server Issue Avril 2026 + + + +

Table of Contents

+ + + + +

After a power outage at the hosting location (3ti), the server wouldnt boot.
+Connected remotely to a computer located at the hosting provider, connected to IPMI/iDRAC then used virtual console to see what was being displayed on the server. +

+ +

The problem:

+
+ +

Error was:


+
+
+ +Time out for waiting the udev queue being empty. +Time out for waiting the udev queue being empty. +Gave up waiting for root file system device. Common problems: +- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) +- Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) +- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) +ALERT! /dev/mapper/pve-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell! + + +BusyBox v1.35.0 (Debian 1:1.13.0-4+b7) built-in shell (ash) +Enter help for a list of built-in commands. + +(initramfs)_ + +
+
+ +

+This built-in shell lacks required tools to perform basic diagnostics let alone any rescue operations, but ls /dev wouldnt list the hard drives.

+Checked in the DRAC/Perc/BIOS and the drives, RAID and virtual disks are all healthy so there is probably no hardware failure.
+A reboot shows that GRUB does load so the drives ARE working.

+A search for /dev/mapper/pve-root does not exist proxmox shows this is a common issue and there are a few ways people have fixed them.
+

    +
  1. Use a different kernel. When updating the kernel Proxmox keeps older kernel versions and they can be accessed by selecting the Advanced options for Proxmox Virtual Environment GNU/Linux boot option in GRUB +
      +
    1. https://old.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1cetljo/i_need_help_devmapperpveroot_does_not_exist/
    2. +
    +
  2. +
  3. Use Chroot to perform a rescue operation on the Linux installation. Including installing a new kernel if the Proxmox doesnt have other installed kernels. +
      +
    1. https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/alert-dev-mapper-pve-root-does-not-exist.148029/
    2. +
    +
  4. +
  5. Add rootdelay=10 to GRUB +
      +
    1. https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/solved-i-need-help-dev-mapper-pve-root-does-not-exist.116967/
    2. +
    +
  6. +
  7. Adding GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="intel_iommu=on iommu=pt" or quiet intel_iommu=off intremap=off to GRUB
  8. +

+ + + +I tried option 3 by adding it directly in the GRUB selection menu to no avail, it didnt change anything. I assumed option 4 didnt have anything to do with my issue and wasnt even worth a try. +Option 1 did not help either. I couldnt see an older kernel in the advanced option. Either the system didnt update or it didnt keep the previous kernel version for me to boot on.
+ +I then went on to try and boot from an Ubuntu desktop live USB drive. But even from there I couldnt see the hard drive listed in /dev, or in lsblk or lshw, etc. At least I now had access to better tools that initramfs was giving me that I could use to perform a better diagnosis. +
    +
  1. dmesg -T | tail -n 200 (look for PCIe, SAS, SATA, NVMe, link resets)
  2. +
  3. lsblk -e7 -o NAME,TYPE,SIZE,MODEL,SERIAL,TRAN,HCTL (see what the kernel created)
  4. +
  5. lspci -nn | egrep -i 'sas|raid|sata|nvme|scsi' (confirm the controller exists)
  6. +
+ +As I was getting desperate, I was basically trying anything I could find only, I eventually saw megaraid_sas 0000:01:00.0 in journalctl -k -b|egrep -i mpt3sas|megaraid|ahci|nvme|reset|timout|aer. +The RAID card I use is a Dell PERC h310 so where is that megaraid device coming from? It also has log entries saying reset/timeout, bingo, I thought, this is the issue, it. times out?? +Now lspci does find something if I filter for megaraid (or lspci -k -s 01:00.0) instead of trying to find Dell or PERC. +There were also some messages in dmesg -T | egrep -I ahci|ata|SATA: SATA (1 to 5) link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300). I assumed this was related to the timeout with the megaraid card as it is a SAS/SATA compatible RAID device and my drives are all SATA. +I tried changing the drives to RAID in the server BIOS configuration even though it didnt make sense, and anyway no changes were made prior to the server stopping working. The fact that I could get to GRUB meant the system sees the disks, at least prior to GRUB or the OS being loaded. Not seeing the disks even in the Ubuntu live I took it that it meant that it was probably a type of driver issue, not a hardware problem. I began looking for a different PERC card that might be using a different driver like an H710 hoping that the new card would be seen properly by the OS and that the RAID configuration would transfer over to the new card. + + + +

+ + + + +

The Fix

+ +

Conclusion

+ +

Other potential fixes

+ +

References

+ +

Test h3

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